pu-erh of the day. Sheng or Shou

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Matu said

2014 Menghai 7262 ripe. Still not particularly enamored with this tea. Good thing I’ve been able to trade a decent amount of it away ;)

Some kind of funky woodiness in the early steeps, though there is some nice, sweet shou flavor as well. Just when the funkiness starts to go away, the flavor starts to drop off. This tea would probably do better in a few years or something. Maybe I’ll make it a point not to buy young factory shou at this point in my tea journey.

mrmopar said

Too young. Sit on it for 2 years and it will be a different animal.

Matu said

So I’ve heard/guessed. I was curious to try a Menghai ripe as I had heard a lot about them, but clearly didn’t do quite enough research. Live and learn! Have about 100g of it left that I’ll just tuck away.

DigniTea said

Agree with mrmopar. The Menghai Dayi ripes you mention “hearing about” are those with age on them. Everyone has their own guidelines but I will not drink a factory production without a minimum of 6 years of age; therefore, I would not touch a 2014 Dayi production before 2020. However, most of the Dayi teas I drink have 10 yrs or more on them. Many of us buy young to hold for some time and put a little more into a factory production with careful aging to enjoy much sooner.

Matu said

Ok, thanks :) Good information to have lol.

Matu said

Followup question, DigniTea (and/or others) – Does that standard of your apply only to factory shou, or do you have the same criteria for factory sheng as well?

If I was to make a guideline for when factory sheng becomes drinkable, it would be wait ten years and cross your fingers. If you’re lucky, something younger might be drinkable, and sometimes something older can still be vile. And by drinkable, I don’t mean “fully aged”, I mean doesn’t rough up the mouth/stomach too much. Really you just have to sample and see; people have different tolerances for the things that can make younger sheng unpalatable.

mrmopar said

HaiWan shous are a bit lighter on the fermentation than Dayi is. They seem to even out a bit quicker.

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nycoma said

2014 bulang raw.. just what i needed after waking up groggy from a brutal nap

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2013 Autumn Da Hu Sai from YS today. The flavor and aroma is grape, along with some tobacco. The mouthfeel after the liquor goes down is quite pleasant, and there appears to be a touch of qi. Relatively thin, and the standard stomach upsetting quality of a young sheng is there as well. In retrospect it’s probably quite bitter, but it never occurred to me while drinking; perhaps due to a developed bitter tolerance. Not bad at all, but other YS shengs have been more interesting.

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Rasseru said

2009 gong ting Seven Son shou.

Beautiful looking cake, very neat and golden reddish brown.

Amazing aroma, very dark liquor and a slightly bitter note like coffee can be. I’m not sure the taste is as promising as the aroma – five steeps in and I wish it had a luscious chocolate body like the aroma gives the impression of.

pretty strong qi, liquor just gets darker and darker

Not bad per se, there is something I like about it but I cant quite put my finger on what, theres a pleasant taste running through the sips

needs more tasting for me to decide, sometimes with shou as im still a newb they grow on me and I appreciate the differences between them.

Dunno if anyone has any more info on this:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BDiO5Wgq1tt/?taken-by=russell_alderton

AllanK said

I notice from the wrapper it claims to be gushu. This is probably a false claim unless you paid a lot for it. Gushu is unfortunately almost never turned into shou.

Rasseru said

I got it with a discount, but originally it was £50/$70

https://www.abbeytea.co.uk/tea-shop/pu-erh-tea/2009-gong-ting-(seven-son)-pu-erh-tea-cake-(ripe)

description said trees 60-100 years old so the claim isnt too far fetched, right?

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Mandala’s Rama Lama Bulang 2014 for me this morning. A break from the exploration of builder’s teas. It was very faintly fishy at first sniff after first brew, but that did not translate into the taste. Earthy with a trace of mineral and it has an underlying sweetness that is very “more-ish.” Can’t remember who recommended it to me, but I am drinking from a sample and would definitely consider buying more of this for daily drinking.

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AllanK said

Today I’m drinking the 2013 Menghai “Golden Needle White Lotus” Ripe from Yunnan Sourcing. This is a good tea overall but has a lot of fermentation flavor left. It was admittedly somewhat unpleasant in the first steep or two and present for the first four or five steeps. It was bittersweet in the start, slowly changing from bitter to sweet. This was one I had hoped would be cleared enough for me to make it a daily drinker but I think it needs two more years to clear a bit. Still overall it was quite good. I think it is Menghai Tea factories highest grade of ripe tea that they make regularly.

Rasseru said

I really liked the fermentation flavour from the 2014 one – same, present for the first 4 or 5 steeps but added to my enjoyment of it

Rasseru said

It might be just how I was feeling that day though, ive been saving it a bit because I liked it so much

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Matu said

A 2007 Jinggu Large Leaf Ripe Puerh brick I ordered from puerhshop.com. After my post yesterday, I decided to make a small test order, and it arrived today (I was kind of surprised, but I guess I shouldn’t be since their warehouse is an hour from my house).

So far, this seems perfectly acceptable for a tea I paid $6.50 for a 250g brick of. Mostly just woodiness with some sweetness and a bit of body to it. Flavor is not particularly strong nor does the tea last a long time. I might have contributed to the quickness with which it died because I was honestly a bit scared it’d be nasty so I rinsed the hell out of it. I’ll mess with it some more with different parameters before I post a review. I went a little light on the leaf, and I could do a better job managing steep times. Not at all displeased with this tea for the price I paid.

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mrmopar said

Having a 2012 Essence of Tea ‘Baotang’ tonight.
I bought this after tasting a sample of it a while back. Mengsong material is usually pretty decent.
I grabbed 11 grams out to start with and gave it a rinse and a little sit time.
Wet leaf you can pick some hints of floral but subdued and there is some smoke in there as well. The tea brews a nice aged golden color in the cup.
It starts out fairly thick and seems to rattle around in the mouth a bit. It is a pretty strong brew with the mintyness and camphor and bitterness rolling around in there. It is not as strong as a Bulang area tea but it is quite strong. Letting the cup cool a bit the bitterness can really come to the front. I see this one doing quite a few quick steeps as I am already 8 in and the leaf keeps giving. The aged profile of this will make you think it is a few years older than it actually is.

Flavors: Bitter, Camphor, Floral, Mint, Smoked

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I must be insane in the membrane for doing this..but I started a 10g sheng session at 10pm. The tea in question? 2014 YunnanSourcing Dehong Ye Sheng! Truth be told I’m trying out my new 145ml Ruyao teapot. Maybe it’s the pot, maybe it’s the tea, but it’s a lot better than when I first tried it in the summer! Not as sour, a bit smoother, and slightly less bitter. It’s got teeth clenching energy! WOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

Did you get any sleep?

About 4 hours

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Rui A. said

Today I went back to the 2004 CNNP 7262 from White2Tea. It has really turned into a very pleasant sheng.

Yang-chu said

Roasted honey?

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