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So I was sipping on “December” just now and I was listening to December by Collective soul, WAS until he sang “turn your head now baby just spit me out” Spit Out December?? No way!!!!!!
So I switched my song to “Once Upon A December” from Anastasia sang by Liz Callaway,
Beautiful song much more fitting for this tea :)
I felt like singing along so I did ;)
Dancing Bears, Painted Wings, Things I almost Remember…
And a Song someone sings, Once Upon a Deceeeeemmmbbbeeerrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!
So December was recently updated, It was delicious before and i thought it was perfect until I had the updated version.
It is outstanding!!!
First let me say that the Fujian Black is one of my favorites, it is right up on the shelf with my all time favorite Black Pearls(not WP). Everything that Brenden blends using the FB so far is always delicious to me.
In this one now I can taste the FB much more, it is made a little less smokey now and has Pine Peak Keemun which is another that I also like very much.
It is chocolaty, sweet, floral, brisk, smokey, malty, a bit fruity extremely smooth…
It has the pleasant dryness on the end like the Pine Peak Keemun that I just love and the boldness of the FB and omg It is just awesome.
I think this may be another new favorite for me (you can never have too many favorite teas, i have lots), This one will most likely go right up on the shelf beside the FB and I ‘ll probably never tire of it, I will be getting more of the new December very soon I may even just have to buy lots of it like i did the FB.
Alls I got this time around was a sample and I could kick myself in the butt now for not getting a couple ounces of it.
Looking at what I’ve written so far i think i mentioned FB too much lol Sorry its just that i can taste the FB so much more in this one now, am i liking this one better? i dunno maybe so, maybe I like them both the same, its hard to say.
If you’ve had the older version of December please do try this one too it is just too good.
Brenden at Whispering Pines makes such good teas it is hard for me not to love them all, I think I do love them all lol. Lance tells me that I should just give up on all other tea companies and just buy from only WP which i honestly think I could be perfectly fine with that but I just love teas so much and right now i still have so many other favorite teas from other places to consider that but I do plan on chilling out for a bit and cutting back to just only buying from 2 or 3 favorite tea vendors very soon, its just easier said than done for me, when that happens WP will be #1. I have already cut back on the amount of teas that I normally buy from other places just so I have more money to spend at WP and that is very easy because I love Brenden’s teas so much, I think Brenden has great taste in teas and he is very good at what he does, I can’t express enough how glad I am to have discovered WP or how much I appreciate the work that he does with his wonderful tea creations.
If you are on steepster and you haven’t tried a Whispering Pines tea I do hope you will give them a try soon, you may be surprised and find yourself a new favorite tea there too.
Sorry i didn’t mean for this to be a review of FB or of WP but it kinda looks to have turned out that way, i’m a little tea drunk right now and it is pretty late lol.
I adore your review Tommy!! You and I are going through the same “tea phase” it seems. I also have narrowed down the companies I order from…I have LOTS of favourites too (many are from WP now) and I’d rather focus on those instead of just randomly order teas I end up not caring much about…haven’t tried December yet, but now I know I will.
And I’m a big fan of FB also :-)
yep, no bitter at all even with a nice long steep FB base tea is Excellent, very good in this December.
I love cooking with Tea Also, I make a really yummy chocolate cobbler that I used a nice Lapsang Souchong in to add a little smokey note. I will be trying it with this December next time, as I was drinking it I couldn’t help but to imagine how delightful it would be for cooking with. I may even create a whole new recipe in the kitchen just for this one.
A sample sent my way from QueenofTarts, I see here that it’s been discontinued.
That doesn’t make me too sad, especially after North Winds and Golden Orchid (!!!) have wormed their way into my heart (and my belly)…. While I do get a faint hint of chocolate from this, it is bitter rather than creamy. And the oolong is earthy. I don’t love these dark oolongs, I think I’m learning that.
I followed the steeping parameters of 5 min @ boiling.
I took a sip when it was really hot to test it out, wanting to know if I should add milk or not.
I was taking it downstairs to watch a movie, see, and I knew I wouldn’t want to come back up to add milk.
It brewed up BLACK, so I decided to add cream.
It was a comforting cup but not nearly malty or chocolatey enough for me, I know there are more special WP teas out there, so if one like this had to go to make room for, say, golden orchid, then I totally support that decision :)
I had to be out & about for awhile, running various errands, so I made a go cup of this one. As far as vanilla teas go, this is the most vanilla-ey vanilla tea I’ve got. I overtea-ed a bit, so it was kind of strong, but "that’s the way, uh huh, uh huh, I like it!
I have 2 weddings to play this afternoon.
The first one is a Catholic wedding Mass at 2:00
http://www.slu.edu/college-church
This is an amazing church!
(That’s coming from a non-religious, semi-buddhist irreverent musician)
The 2nd one is outside at a golf club, weather permitting (I’ll need my fingerless gloves).
http://www.forestparkgc.com/weddings.html
I can’t drink too much tea, because:
1. Sil & I drank so much tea yesterday, I’m still peeing
2. Once you start playing at a wedding, you better hope you don’t have to pee, unless you are wearing a catheter & bag (NOT, LOL).
So this is my final cup of the morning. Really, I’m being a copy cat cuz several other people are drinking & posting about it, so why not me?
It’s rich, it’s hot, I like black tea, & I like vanilla.
Since my Senses are somewhat senseless today, that’s all I got.
This is my 4th tea of the day. I started in bed reading Doctor Sleep, Stephen Kings long awaited sequel to The Shining, with Laoshan Black, steeped at 3 & then 5min. Then it was Butiki’s Dinjoye Estate Assam while cooking breakfast, & Kenyan Obsidian with breakfast.
Now I’m relaxing, watching the Cardinals/Cubs baseball game, contemplating getting back to work on the sock I’m knitting, & sipping this tea.
I steeped 1 T for 3min. I also added a pinch of stevia from Cheryl’s Herbs. Most stevia’s have a bitter anise aftertaste. This one does not!
This tea is vanilla ice cream. It also reminds me of a really fine Vanilla pipe tobacco (no, I don’t smoke). Tony says it smells like vanilla pastry to him.
Afternote: I tried a 5 min resteep, but it didn’t really offer much. I gave it a few more minutes, pretty much the same.
My husband loves this one. sigh Guess I will make a WP order one of these days, lol. Also that explains why I don’t like most stevia. Anise is the devil!
It might seem like I’m playing favorites with WP this weekend, & well…I guess I am, LOL.
That’s because I recently got a box of teas from there, & most of them are samples that I want to split with Sil. Also, our shared order from YS came this week, & I want to finish all the WP samples, so I can include them in her box. Finally, I’m leaving for FL on thurs to visit my mom & dad for 5 days, so I’m hoping to mail Sil’s box off before I leave.
Of course, I could wait until I get back…we’ll see. Anyway, I brought the WP box with me to Tony’s for the weekend, so that’s what I’m drinking.
Per my usual sunday morning routine, I made an awesome pancake breakfast for Tony & I, with bacon, fried apples, & a drizzle of maple. This tea was the obvious choice to go with the pancakes! I used 1 TB, & enjoyed the first cup straight, & the 2nd steep with a little maple. I might as well try for a third steep, but I’ll take that one plain.
Now we’re watching cardinals baseball in our PJs.
You are really going to adore the Coca Amore – it came very very close for me to the bestness of GO, but for me GO edges it out slightly. LTF (LovelyTeaFairy) might have a little different take than I do, but this is my favorite blend.
Terri – if you haven’t had GO, whenever i place my first WP order in uh august… i can pick some of that up heh
Yeah I’m not following things well today…. Totally all over the place… Didn’t want to have to work this weekend and what am I doing at 8-10pm my birthday? Working.
I don’t have time for a long review here, where I wax poetic about the glories of this tea.
Let’s just jump to the chase & say that everything you’ve heard about this tea is spot on. The initial aroma reminds me of a really high quality vanilla pipe tobacco (although I don’t know for sure if I’ve ever actually smelled one), & then you start drinking it, & it’s awesomely wonderful, vanilla ice cream with dark chocolate sauce drizzled over the top, the kind that hardens into a shell. What I love about it most is that the black tea underneath isn’t some woosie generic, it’s bold & thick chinese blacks. And yeah, it resteeps like a dream, & I’m taking all those resteeps for once. And the sweet aftertaste lingers…sigh…
I’ve said enough!
I want to try mine but I can’t drink a black tea this late in the day.. tomorrow for sure!
You can make the chocolate sauce you describe by melting and combining coconut oil and chocolate chips (I do that from time to time)
Well…I kind of just decided that there was a GO Cult….cause ya know, it’s getting more and more followers. The Guru is Tea Whiz Of The Woods (Brenden). It’s VERY hard to resist all his charismatic teas…
Haha! Is wit a requirement to be a Steepster member? Cause I don’t know where else you can get as much for free!!!
The Illustrious Cult of the Golden Orchid
Guru: Tea Whiz of the Woods
Official Organizer & Cheerleader: TheTeaFairy
Meetings: Monthly, in the Steepster basement
Please bring a snack to share.
Haha! And we can ask mj to bring her communal fridge!
Lol, Sarsonator, “The Illustrious Cult of the Golden Orchid” makes an awesome cult name!!!
I want to join the cult! But no more tea for me till black friday. I tried telling myself that buying samples didn’t count and I may cave there because the WP cult is ever so persuasive.
GO just sounds so decadent.
There will be no black friday sale at WP. I am strongly against black friday. There will be a cyber monday sale though :)
I want to be the Court Jester for the cult. I’m trying to decide if I need to give in to my sudden GO craving or actualy sleep again tonight
I also dislike Black Friday. I refuse to leave my house. This year, though, maybe I will host an online Steepster Sipdown Fest!
HoneyBelle a.k.a MzPriss: You are now the official Cult Jester :p
Hmmm…Sudden GO cravings are hard to resist….Court Jester, that’s exactly what we were missing :-)
(Oh, may I reserve my Fest tickets now Sarsonator?)
I am going to have to veto the idea of a Steepster Chat. If there was a Steepster Chat, I would never get anything done!!!! :p
I haven’t ever done one, but a friend of mine does some gaming chat and she loves it. But yeah, time sucker I bet
I think people who go out shopping on Black Friday should get their heads examined. Pro Cyber Monday though.
I don’t go anywhere near any stores on Black Friday, but I definitely participate in the cyber monday tea sales!
@Nattie – Black Friday is an unfortunate USA custom where all the retailers have these giant sales (allegedly) the day after Thanksgiving. It has gotten earlier and earlier to where now it starts on Thanksgiving. People trample each other and have fights over cheap TVs. It is an ugly custom in the stores. Cyber Monday, while sort-of the same thing – is online and much more civilized and NOT on a holiday you should be spending with your people instead of being in line for 12 hours to fight over stuff you can usually get just as good a deal on later.
Ahh okay, thanks! We have a similar thing over here with the Boxing Day sales, but at least it doesn’t start until after Christmas! Cyber Monday sounds much better (:
This sample is also from Nicole (although I did also order a sample of this, hah!). It’s a blend of Yunnan and Fujian teas, which is pretty obvious by looking at it. It has the longer, lighter colored tippy Yunnan leaves and then there are also shorter, darker Fujian leaves. It smells very nice – bready with malt and honey and a little cocoa. Steeped according to the package directions.
The aroma is similar to the dry leaf, with an added dark raisiny note. The taste is definitely a hybrid. It’s like a light Yunnan that has been dragged down into darkness by its Fujian counterpart. It still has those lovely lighter malty bread and honey notes, but there’s an underlying depth and richness from bitter cocoa and syrupy molasses. In the middle is the lovely raisin fruitiness that helps to tie these two together. A very nice combination! I’ll have to be sure to try the Fujian on its own soon so I can fully appreciate this blend.
I will say one thing, this has given me a much greater appreciation of Golden Orchid. While this does have some dark and bitter cocoa flavor, it’s nowhere close to the same. So clearly those little vanilla beans have a huge effect! Can’t wait to try that one again later today… :)
Flavors: Baked Bread, Dark Bittersweet, Honey, Malt, Molasses, Raisins
Preparation
This tea is a really enjoyable cup, but I can’t rave about these snails as much as others do. The bright taste of this tea isn’t well rounded to me. I feel like I am missing something. Its like a golden monkey but with out the dark notes and I have to say the dark notes is what I really like. I wouldn’t pass up a cup of this, but I probably won’t seek it out either.
Up next from the recent WP order. I am not yet well versed in Yunnan’s. I know I have had a few, but not enough to really know. I made the mistake tonight of starting to sip this tea with a bowl of strawberries in front of me. The sweet from the fruit did not help this tea out. It made my first few sips a bit wishy washy. Once I got the sweet taste out of my mouth I was able to focus on the tea a bit more. I enjoyed this cup. I get malty, tad bit of honey-ish flavor with a bright finish. I will need to have another go with this cup without a bowl full of fruit to get to know this one a bit better.
Keep in mind I’m not an expert. :D
The first time I made it, I took a few BURNING sips, and tasted hints of vanilla with a fudgy, hoppy aftertaste. YUM! I let it cool off for a few moments, and… What?! What’s going on?! I think part of it is because I used too much water to too little leaves, because it became something different. It literally tasted like a beer tea. I honestly don’t mind, but where did the fudge and sweetness go? I also think the hardness of the tap water here has been effecting my tea. I used to use a water filter, because I hate the chlorine smell/taste of our local tap water. I had to play around with it a little more…
Second time around…
WOW WOWIEE! Now I know exactly what people are making a fuss about! This time I used almost exactly 1.5 tsp with 8oz of water. (First steep was 12-14oz to 1.4 tsp. Which didn’t turn out well for me.) I let it cool down and it tastes like chocolate malt tea. In my opinion its best this way! :)
I love the weird hoppy, nutty after taste. Its akin to the taste of a good stout. Yum! Any beer aficionados out there agree?
I’ve also read that it tastes like fresh baked bread, after sitting here for awhile, there is a subtle aftertaste of toasty baguette crust.
Definitely play around with this tea. I didn’t have good luck with it at first, but now I know where I went wrong.
So dynamic and interesting. Skipping out on this would be a mistake!!!
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I’m finding this tea sinfully easy to drink.. scary, considering how it’s a luxury item in my cupboard. It has a misty autumnal vibe to it, but the eucalyptus and evergreen could be appealing in many scenarios.
With all the sharp, “green” elements, the vanilla is an interesting contrastive choice, but a nice one nonetheless. Whispering Pines seems to make a nice vanilla tea and that goes for this one too.
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Whenere I see this tea listed, Port, i expect it to be Port wine flavoured tea, because come on, that is an awesome concept – sweet grape with many other hints, I already think naturally that often tea reminds me of wine or of wine must. But I confess this blend, while being so different from expected, does sound entriguing!
I love everything evergreen in my tea, and this one fully delivers. I’d previously pegged down White Wolf, from Bellocq, as my quintessential, super-expensive, cedar-vanilla tea but this one is really good too.
Port has a nice balance of flavours: cedar, smooth vanilla bean, and accents of salt and of something “nippy” that is distinctly eucalyptus. It’s a nice level of eucalyptus, and not at all like the time that I put a little too much eucalyptus oil on my hot hand towel and inhaled deeply- when hot, that stuff burns with righteous intensity. I probably won a Darwinian award somewhere in that story.
This is a “darker” tea than my other cedar-vanilla option, which has a white tea base. However, it also isn’t as cold, and so set in the dead of winter, as my other one. I can drink this at the lake camp in the midst of a broiling summer too, or on a foggy autumnal day.
I haven’t had a lot of exposure to saffron and I’m going to have to carefully budget it out, but I love this tea and I want it to be a part of my life! Also, the dry blend reminds me ever so slightly of marzipan. It also resteeps well, although the cedar is more pronounced in the second steep.
Flavors: Cedar, Eucalyptus, Malt, Vanilla
Preparation
It is expensive, but it is so worth it, I love Port. Have you tried cold steeping the used leaves? I put them in a mason jar for 24 hours and I get so much vanilla goodness!
I haven’t yet, but I’m planning too; my other cedar-vanilla tea cold steeped really well too. Do you think I’d get any flavour out of leaves I’ve already steeped three times?
Yes!!! I did mine after 3 steeps!! i figured I pay big bucks for this baby, might as well get the best out of it…minimum 24h or more…it tastes like vanilla water, subtle but very yummy.
Hooray, more Whispering Pines! This sample came from the giant Yunnapalooza pack sent to me by the lovely and generous Nicole. I was pretty excited to try this for a couple reasons: 1 – it’s super cute!, and 2 – I ordered an ounce of this in the 4th of July sale this past weekend. The leaves are so cute and beautiful, and just looking at them makes me think of “wee snaily yums” and that makes me think of those adorable snail fairy land pictures provided by mj! Squee! When I opened the paper packet, I immediately smelled Fruit Loops. Huh? The scent is very honeyed and there’s a definite stonefruit note, which I am starting to find common in Yunnans, especially very tippy ones. I brewed this according to the package directions.
Mmm the aroma! Lovely yeasty bread and mild sweet potato! Tart stonefruit with honey and molasses! Exclamation point! Needless to say, waiting for it to cool was agony… #firstworldproblems. The taste is surprisingly light for a black tea! But it is definitely full of flavor, just without a lot of heaviness. My first impression is of lovely light, crispy toast with honey slathered over the top. There in the middle is that sweet potato, very creamy and smooth in texture. And in the back there’s molasses, adding a lovely richness and depth to the overall taste. And is that a little hint of floral near the end? According to the website description, it’s gardenia, and since I have no concept of that I will have to take their word for it! I was missing the stonefruit from the aroma, but then I got a nice pop of apricot in the aftertaste, which was unexpected but wonderful!
This is my favorite Yunnan yet, and I am very glad that I ordered an ounce! Can’t wait to try the Imperial Gold Bud, too! :)
Flavors: Apricot, Baked Bread, Floral, Honey, Malt, Molasses, Sweet Potatoes
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I have to say, I don’t love this. I don’t hate it, but I’m just not a fan of eucalyptus. This infusion is about 2 tsp for 12 oz. I’m getting a minty taste for sure. And a little cedar, but that I can kind of handle. This is less dessert like than last time. I mean, it is still a little sweet, though I added a little bit of raw cane sugar.
I thank CrowKettle for allowing me to try this one. I feel like Golden Orchid resonates with me more though.
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This one comes from the ever so lovely CrowKettle along with a few other WP teas and a few other odds and ends. This one caught my interest when she said recently that it tasted like marzipan, or somewhat dessert-like. Then today when she gave it to me, she also mentioned the cedar and eucalyptus notes. Colour me intrigued and confused.
So I went to look at steeping parameters, and it said to use 1 tablespoon for 8 oz, and I was like, huh? Thinking it was a typo and that it was 1 teaspoon, I opted to try the smaller amount. I’m not sure if it is in fact a typo, but that is how I made it.
The liquor is much paler than I was expecting. Which maybe is under leafing? I don’t know. I went into drinking this one with the hopes I got a more dessert-y feel, and I did, though I can kind of pick up that slightly minty-ishness of the eucalyptus. It is sold of like a coolish feeling going down, but not like peppermint or spearmint or anything really strong. I can kind of pick out the sweeter vanilla note, but not sure on the saffron or really what that should taste like.
I did use sugar for both of my steeps which makes it less woodsy to me. I’m not the hugest fan of woodsy, to be honest, and that part of the description is what threw me off on wanting to try this, until it was compared to marzipan. I can’t quite say it is like marzipan, but I can get a sort of dessert note, probably from the vanilla and saffron. Marzipan is a bit more almondy.
I’d have to say this feels like a masculine tea, playing a bit of dress up, and trying on a little bit of a feminine feel. I have to say I am a little confused and mystified about this one. I have enough for another serving, and I can probably get one more steep out of this. I might look at cold steeping the last bit, or a steeping from the last bit, as was suggested.
I can’t say whether I would recommend the to anyone because it is such a peculiar yet specific note that the person really has to like more woodsy notes in their tea. But that’s just not my thing. For what it is, I like it more than I thought I would based on the description alone. Thanks again to CrowKettle for sharing this with me, and pushing me out of my comfort zone.
I think it smells like marzipan more than it tastes like it, in a David’s Tea Alpine Punch kind of way, but yeah.. lots of interesting things going on in this cup, for sure!
I can pick that up, with you having said that, but not sure I would on my own…but def a dessert quality.
Just updated the steeping info on Steepster. It should have read 1/2 tablespoon in 200ºF water for 3 minutes. If you’ve got enough for another steep, I’d love to hear if your opinions change at all! :)
I measured out a sample of this for my tea-drinking friend a few months ago. I’ve since run out of this blend, but while I was at her house today she offered me some.
She didn’t spoon out the leaves, she just dumped them into a cup and poured medium-warm water over them. (My internal dialogue: Did I measure several servings or just one? I wonder if she’s—oh, okay…I guess it’ll be a little strong.) Neither of us set a timer. I think it steeped for about five, six minutes, but the water temp was low enough to prevent it from getting bitter.
So. I liked this a lot more than I remembered liking it. I think I brewed through my entire ounce using Brenden’s parameters instead of tinkering. So my memories of this tea use descriptors like “bland, weak, too floral, unbalanced”. Kind of harsh, but I wasn’t impressed. It wasn’t my thing.
The long steep made the green tea base REALLY REALLY buttery, velvety and delicious. There was only a hint of jasmine in the background. It added more to the texture of the tea than the taste, in my opinion. Smoothed it over…made it a little creamier and sweeter. Just a little floral. The pine was barely present. In fact, I don’t remember if I could taste it or not. I wish I had taken notes while sipping. Oops! Anyway, the thick buttery sweet taste/texture is what got me. It was warm and comforting, like a soft blanket on a chilly night. It’s the kind of tea I’d love to have right before bed. Winding down, at the end of the day…
Not very outdoorsy, that cup. Not at all. That’s fine…it was an experiment of taste! Now I wish I had more of this to play around with. Next time!! shakes fist at sky
Flavors: Butter, Cream, Floral, Smooth
Sipdown!
This one most likely won’t be a repurchase for me. I do enjoy it while it’s hot, but there’s a certain floral note here, and if I let it cool just a little too long, it takes over and renders the cup nearly undrinkable as it becomes soapy extremely quickly. Obviously this is entirely my preference, as I tend to not enjoy floral teas. So farewell, Ailaoshan, it was nice to meet you!
Preparation
Side-by-side comparison with Ai Lao Mountain Black Spring 2014 by Yunnan Sourcing
I remembered that at one point, boychik had mentioned that she’d like to see a side-by-side comparison of this tea and Ai Lao Mountain Black, so I thought why not? The Ai Lao was a single-serving sample, so I figured it’s now or never!
Visually, these two are nearly identical. The leaves are nearly black and they remind me of a smaller version of the “spider leg” Taiwanese Assam leaves. Same size leaves in both of these teas. I can’t comment on the dry scent, because my Ai Lao Mountain was in a zipper baggie and therefore lost most of its smell. Oh well! I brewed both teas in identical cups with identical infuser baskets. It was a 3 minute steep at 200 degrees with 3 grams of each tea (my sample of Ai Lao was 3 grams so I used the whole thing and matched the weight for Ailaoshan).
First, the smell-off! I found that both teas had strong dried fruit notes, but Ailaoshan’s were dark, syrupy fruits such as raisin, prune, and cherry, while Ai Lao had a lighter dried fruit profile (raisin still maybe, but paired with fig or golden raisin). Both teas had a strong molasses aroma, and an interesting herbal or spice hint that I couldn’t quite place. The biggest differences I noticed between the two: Ai Lao had a little wisp of floral dancing around which was absent from Ailaoshan. In contrast, Ailaoshan had an obvious dark caramelized sugar scent that was divine! So far, pretty similar but each with its own flair.
On to the taste-off! There is also similarity here: both teas have a nice bready quality, although I would say it’s stronger in Ailaoshan. Also, both teas have strong molasses-ish rich flavor and that same dastardly unidentified herb/spice note! Does it bother anyone else when they can’t identify a flavor? Harumph! Both are fruity teas, but in quite different ways. The Ai Lao has a tangier dried fruit flavor – think prunes, maybe with a bit of something tangier, like tamarind maybe? Meanwhile, Ailaoshan has a much sweeter, almost jammy cherry and blackberry flavor, which was a surprise to me considering the aroma! Just like the aroma, the Ai Lao has a (fairly strong) floral element, which unfortunately translates into a slightly soapy aftertaste for me. Ailaoshan retains that lovely dark caramelized sugar that I noticed in scent form, and it goes very nicely with the dark bread notes and the fruit. I noticed as Ailaoshan cooled, it developed a woody taste that was not at all unpleasant. The Ai Lao tastes almost the same cool as it did hot, maybe with a bit more of that soapiness at the end.
In conclusion… These two teas are far more different in flavor than I would expect. Yes, they have several similar notes, but the ones that are different affect those similar notes in a way that makes them taste dissimilar in the end. I would almost describe these as being the corporeal and the ethereal form of the same tea. The Ailaoshan Black would be the corporeal version, with its earthier dark sugar, wood, and dark bread flavors. Therefore, the Ai Lao Mountain becomes its ethereal counterpart, with its lighter and whimsical floral element combined with the mild tang of the fruits.
Hah, that probably makes no sense, but I’m sticking with it! Overall, my preference is for the Ailaoshan Black, but considering I’m not a fan of floral, I consider myself to be biased in that regard. :P
Flavors: Baked Bread, Blackberry, Brown Sugar, Burnt Sugar, Cherry, Herbs, Jam, Molasses, Wood
Preparation
I always have a hard time with spices. I guess I need to spend some time smelling and eating different ones! :P
This is my second time trying this one, after not loving it the first time. Thankfully, a lot of people here on Steepster gave me advice and hints so hopefully I can have a better experience with this one. I’m doing the TheTeaFairy and Dexter method, which is basically low and slow. :P 5 minutes at 190 degrees, and with bottled water instead of tap (thanks Brenden).
Well, it definitely tastes different. This time I’m getting a ton of sweet potato and almost butternut squash taste. Very creamy, but almost savory. It’s definitely fruity as well, but mostly dark fruits like plums and raisins. I’m not sure on the whole salted caramel idea, I think what I taste is probably closer to molasses. And I still definitely am getting a slight floral aftertaste.
Overall, it’s good but I’m not “in love” with it. Maybe this one just isn’t totally for me… I would be curious to try tap water with the same brewing time and temperature, maybe in a few days when I’ve gotten through part of my humongous Nicole Yunnan collection. :P Thanks again for all the advice, everyone.
Flavors: Butternut Squash, Molasses, Plums, Raisins, Sweet Potatoes
Preparation
Part of that humongosity is boychik’s fault. :) I passed on the tons of samples she gave me from YS. :) So I don’t have all of that Yunnan in my house! Not yet, anyway…
Blame it on me, haha. And don’t forget Terri. She introduced me to YS. After that I ordered a ton and I don’t regret because I can share and spread YS love
Sure, I can try that. I only have one brewing basket but I should be able to keep the first one hot since I have lids for my mugs. :)
I got a sample of this from Nicole (I also have a sample from Whispering Pines and I have another ounce coming on Wednesday). I’m kind of anxious to try it since it seems to have quite a following around here. The leaves are very dark and spindly – like a miniature version of Taiwanese black leaves. They smell of raisins and cocoa, with some malt, tobacco, and honey notes. Brewed according to the package directions.
The brewed tea smells strongly of sweet potatoes, with a malty edge. There’s a deep molasses scent, and a lighter raisin note that makes me think of golden raisins. The taste is pretty similar to the aroma. Lots of sweet potato with strong malt taste. There’s a fruitiness that reminds me of plums and raisins. I don’t get any chocolate from this at all. And there’s a floral aftertaste that kind of seems soapy to me? The body is lighter than a lot of other Chinese blacks I’ve tried, maybe a little bit thin.
Now I know that this will probably get me pelted with rotten vegetables, but I don’t love this tea. And I’m unhappy because I feel like I didn’t get the flavors that a lot of other people mentioned, like chocolate and caramel, and it makes me feel like I’m at fault somehow in my tasting of this. Frustrating…
Holding off on the rating until I give it a couple more tries.
Flavors: Floral, Malt, Plums, Raisins, Sweet Potatoes, Tobacco
Preparation
I didn’t go mad over it either, though I did enjoy it! ’Twas no Golden Orchid though. Nor north winds.
It just makes me sad when I feel like I’m somehow not getting the full potential. Maybe my concept of chocolate is just too ingrained in sweetness, I don’t know. :/
I’ve noticed that the flavor of this tea changes DRAMATICALLY based on the quality of water you’re using. What kind of water are you using?
Brenden, that’s a good idea. I generally just use tap water, but I’ve never had issues before. I can definitely try this one again tomorrow using bottled water and see if that makes the difference. I really want to love it! :(
I know how that goes. I feel the same with about Laoshan Black. haha.
I have also noticed that sometimes when I have this tea, I don’t get any of the notes either. To me, it seems that this tea needs everything to be just right (mood, water, etc) for the best taste. I’d also recommend drinking this outdoors. :)
(Cameron – I’m probably going to get pelted too, but sometimes I find that a lower steep temp and long steep time will bring out the chocolate notes in back tea – I haven’t actually tried THIS ONE – but when I’m having problems “finding” the chocolate, I try about 85-90 for 5-6 minutes. If the bottled water doesn’t help, that would be my suggestion – or at least that’s what I would do….) Good Luck – hope you find steeping parameters that work for you….
Thanks for the helpful advice, everyone! I’ll be sure to try this one again in the morning and see if I can’t get it to taste like chocolate somehow. You’ve definitely cheered me up at least. :)
:) You might also have luck trying to find the salted caramel and going from there. Search for the salt and then for the cocoa :P
Cameron, nothing to feel bad about. You just need to find your sweet spot, like everybody said, try different ways. And maybe it just won’t work for you, it happens.
For me personally, the water makes a huge difference, I never use tap. I agree with Dexter about the lower temp. I’ve had it almost every morning for the last couple of weeks and my favourite way to brew is 5 min at 190F. The first thing I smell and taste is salted caramel, and it’s very sweet. The cocoa notes are there but not as dominant, at least not to me. I think everyone gave good advices, good luck on your next attempt :-)
Cameron, if it makes you feel better no chocolate for me either. It’s more fruity to me, even grapes or longan,plums. Let’s blame it on NY tap water which is very good by all reports. We have perfect alkali
I’m gonna chime in on water. Next week I’ll be going to visit my folks in FL, & although I usually avoid bottled water, I’ll go through a case or 2 while I’m there, because the tap water is so disgusting to taste & smell, plus it makes me swell up. I’m sorry to say this, but most bottled waters also suck, I never feel hydrated by it, & it tends to make tea taste flat, but better than having them taste like sulphur.
Terri you know FL water is bad when you go on a cruise and the water on the ship does wonders for your poor torchered hair. The first night I didn’t understand why my hair suddenly felt so much softer. I’ve also had family from New York complain about the water in Florida ruining their hair. As far as bottled water, I so agree. I can’t stand Dasani, especially. Zephyrhills is pretty decent though.
CameronB I found that with some teas with cocoa notes, loudly slurping a sip almost like your gargling it helps to draw out the cocoa note. This sort of aerates the tea and something about causing molecules going up the back of the nasal canal and improving the aroma and flavor or something. I don’t know I read something about it once a while back and it seems to help me.
I don’t think you’ll get pelted with anything. You like what you like and nothing tastes the same to anyone as it does to anyone else. Play around with it and see, but if you don’t love it in the end, you just don’t love it – not a thing in the world wrong with that. I feel the same way about several teas that get lots of rave reviews. There’s lots of tea out there to love :)
I completely agree with MzPriss. I have my favorites and they seem to be hit or miss with Steepster favorites. No pelting with tomatoes ever on here. For instance LB and Golden Fleece… I can’t rave over these like others can, but my favorites seem to be hit or miss with others. I really like this tea but I didn’t get chocolate out of it at all, it was more of a creamy malty taste for me and it seemed to be a mood tea for me. The first time I had it, it was eh, the second time it was really good. We will see what the third time brings.
So what varietal of tea is this. Is this a Zheng Shan Xiao Zhong, I think I have seen it referred to as a non smokey Lapsong Souchong? I love this tea. I have been pulling it out when I have been craving a cup of hot chocolate lately. I could seriously drink this all day long. I am down to my last cup. I know that this year the rains have effected this type of tea, but hoping to find something that somewhat replaces it for a little while.
Keychange: I know, right? I thought Lapsang MEANT smoky, though I knew souchong referred to the size of the leaf and they are usually the fifth to seventh leaf on a limb. But I bought the non-smoky Lapsang souchong from Teavivre and it is really good!

This was the previous version of December BTW, before the update :)
Figures dancing gracefully across my memory… :D
far away long ago, glowing dim as an ember…. :)
That really made me smile :-)
Painted Wings, just like a tea fairy! :P
:)
Awww….