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My feelings are way to mixed with this tea…

Daylon R Thomas

Tell me yours. I really want to see what all your thoughts were on this one :)

To me, it was the best oolong for the quantity and price. It has the minimum floral-coconut taste that I really enjoy for an oolong and unlike the Mandala’s, it tasted oddly more natural. Lately, it’s been TOO buttery and thick which I really am not a fan of. I love me some savory notes in my oolong, but this one has too much. I am able to get the creamier, more subtle sweet notes in really short steeps with a lot less leaves. Think 2-3 grams in 6 oz for really short splashes. Sometimes, I’ve used a minute, 30 sec, and 15 sec for the first steep which turns out nicely. The middle steeps become too vegetal and thick whereas the later steeps with the flavor pushed out become more preferable.

If I were to describe a distinct difference from when I first had it, it would be that the flavoring didn’t taste as heavy. That was a winter crop, but I do not know how much of a difference it would make. More than likely it’s just me. I will keep on playing with it and probably keep the steeps super short. I really enjoy the florals when I catch them and the flavor when it is lighter, but only when it is lighter.

Have you ever smelled plumeria? That’s the floral note that I’m after. That or lilac. Anyway, your thoughts :)

Evol Ving Ness

Thank you, Daylon. I do very much enjoy your commentaries on tea. What I need to do is track this particular tea down and steep some up again. I haven’t been drinking oolongs much in the past few days. And currently, I have just blasted myself with maple, as in MAAAAAPLE. My tastebuds might take some time to recover. In my recollection, this tea was very light on the cream and butter, which was my problem with it—I wanted the sledgehammer approach to milk oolong that day. Call me a neanderthal. The floral aspects of it did come up.

My comment really does the tea a disservice as I am not sitting with a cup of it in front of me.

Daylon R Thomas

No worries. :) Some maple sounds frickin’ fantastic…as I type to you an hour late.

Evol Ving Ness

I did wander over to where I thought this packet of jin xuan might be, but nope. I’ll turn up. Eventually.

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Lovely tonight. Less leaves. I am so temperamental about this tea. Butter and thick coconut oil are strongest this time with some arguable spinach in the background. Of course I love it. I swear it was slightly different the first time I had it. More florals and a tad less buttered greens would be perfect. Oh well. Still happy.

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“I like savory to be balanced in my oolongs….” okay never mind this tea is strong on the savoriness and too strong on the flavor. I do not remember if I already wrote this-but please-for the love of delicate tea- Gong Fu this and do not exceed 3 grams for a 6-8 oz serving. The fat creamy and sweet qualities were better at 10 sec for 3 grams, 5 oz and 180 F. 170 might work as well. Or that’s just me because I am crazy. That is all I have to add.

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Backlog: the last time I had this, it was buttery bock choy rancid. The smell from the bag has also been overwhelmingly buttery and vegetal-almost like cooked spinach. Next time I drink this, I am going to use a lot less leaves to tone down the green. I hope it is not due to something a little more serious, but more than likely, the overpowering smell may be from a larger amount of that oolong piled in a large bag.

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In terms of taste, I’m not really saying more than what has already been written. Here’s what I can add: this tea has a butterscotch thing going on along with the massive amounts of lilac florals. Maybe plumeria, but that’s my longing talking. It is sweet and buttery, but not as vegetal as other flavored milk oolongs. Maybe cooked spinach comes close, but that’s it. The sweetness and the florals dominate.

The balance between the flavoring and the natural floral qualities this tea has impresses me. What impresses me even more is the considerable complexity it has western. You maybe could brew this gong fu for a flower power sweet buttery oolong, but it might be too light for some. Either way, I wish I had more of it myself especially considering the price.

It actually stacks up against one of my favorite teas which is impressive. It’s not AS thick and sweet like toffee, but the smooth, thick, yet silky body is very welcoming. I would recommend this to someone just getting into tea for sure, and as something to try among more experienced addicts-I mean- drinkers as a decent flavored tea. The very natural florals and tropical coconut milk sweetness would be the appeal- the lightness and high leaf load for gong fu may be a deterrent. I could be wrong. I could also try it myself, but I do not want to squander it.

Preparation
190 °F / 87 °C 1 min, 0 sec 3 g 6 OZ / 177 ML
Evol Ving Ness

Maybe plumeria, but that’s my longing talking.

Possibly the best tea sentence ever. Ever.

Daylon R Thomas

:) That’s from growing up in Hawaii -cough, cough-I’m navy brat-cough, cough.

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Much better the second time around. I’m sorry little Cannonballs, I treated you harshly yesterday. You didn’t deserve my hate! This time I used my 120mL gaiwan and 160F water. I was also much more careful with my steep times, knowing that this tea can turn into a bitter mess as soon as the little cannonballs begin to open up.

I started this off with a 20 second rinse to get it going and then the next 8 or so steeps stayed at or below 10 sec. Before the cannonballs opened up all the way, the tea was light and a little vegetal with a good sweetness. As they started opening up, the tea definitely got thick, a tad bitter, and picked up a savory and brothy characteristic. A couple steeps later, the savory flavor started mixing with a renewed sweetness, which soon developed a nice floral characteristic.

I suspect this tea is quick to bitterness because, as I saw looking at the spent tea, the cannonballs are comprised of very small and fragmentary leaves. Thus, once they open up, you’re hit with a bitter-bomb if you aren’t careful. Pretty tasty once I knew how to handle it.

Flavors: Bitter, Broth, Floral, Sweet, Vegetal

Preparation
160 °F / 71 °C 0 min, 15 sec 5 g 4 OZ / 120 ML

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Hmm…really wasn’t feeling this tea. It seemed like it was lacking all the bright/vibrant flavors that make green tea good. The wet leaves had a salty vegetal or seaweed aroma. The first couple steeps were alright, with some light corn sweetness and a bit of astringency. As the little balls started to open up, the tea got quite bitter, to the point where I had to lower my steep times back down. I got some vegetal notes and a brief citric note at one point. I will try this again with lower temp or cold brew.

I don’t know if this tea is just a little old for green tea or what, but it was pretty flat, bitter, and just meh overall.

Preparation
175 °F / 79 °C 0 min, 15 sec 5 g 3 OZ / 100 ML
Rasseru

try it at 70c?

Matu

Yea that’s probably what I’ll do next :)

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This tea was exceedingly light compared to the Taiwan Milk Oolong last night. I definitely got the mango in taste, texture, and smell with thick mouth feel and a transparent light quality. I was not sure what else I missed.

So I brew it up again, and more or less the same thing, only the creamy quality was sweeter. Like a sugar cane sweetness-maybe cotton candy-but sweetness is one of those subjective notes to me.

I do gotta say this is better Western in the short steep of one minute with one tea spoon than gong fu with two. More leaves makes this tea significantly more vegetal, while western brings out the more creamy and light qualities this tea has. Which is not that usual considering that Gong Fu brings out creamier and more floral qualities of an oolong for me.

Oddly enough, it was not that vegetable to me compared to the many other Jin Xuans I’ve had. It did have a light grassiness to it along with a thick, and again, creamy body, but not as buttery as other flavored milk oolong. Coconut oil is the closest fat that I can really parallel this to. This may or may not appeal to people who have a hard time with buttery and spinachy jin xuans, especially flavored. I personally quite enjoy it for the light simplicity.

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This sampler bag has lasted me quite a while. Balanced, malty, and smooth earl grey with a great feel on the tongue. I got some cocoa personally, but that was my imagination looking for it. It actually became a little creamy when the cup chilled from the cold weather sneaking inside. I would recommend a light cold brew of this then.

This Earl Grey is actually one of my favorites because of its balance and simplicity. Guess having little astringency goes far for me. I’d still recommend it for Earl Grey lovers.

Now to consider if another What-Cha order is a wise idea. Wise for getting a few exquisite teas I want to try and more jade oolongs on the spectrum, but not wise if I want to venture too much further this month.

Evol Ving Ness

I vote yes for more What-Cha. Alistair is such a talented tea curator. So I say one more What-Cha order and then explore something else in your following purchase.

Daylon R Thomas

Why I go to him so often. What-Cha, Berylleb, and Andrew are my personal top vendors. I was able to spend less money on tea last semester because I did it bulk from Alistair. Then December came round and I went through oolong freakout. Here’s the list I’m thinking of from What-Cha:
China Fujian Tong Mu Wild Lapsang Souchong Black Tea
Weight:
10g / 0.35oz
Taiwan Li Shan Oolong Tea
Weight:
50g / 1.76oz
India Darjeeling 2nd Flush Rohini Golden Buds Black Tea
Weight:
50g / 1.76oz

Korea Jukro Semi-Wild Balhyocha Tea

Weight:
10g / 0.35oz
Thailand #17 ‘Ruan Zhi’ High Mountain Oolong Tea
Weight:
10g / 0.35oz
Vietnam #12.5 High Mountain Oolong Tea
Weight:
10g / 0.35oz
Taiwan Jade Oolong Tea
Weight:
10g / 0.35oz

All teas I definitely want to try and have a supply of. The Lapsang and Korean blacks are expensive, but delicacies that are great in 10 gram samples.

Hugo Tea also had a Chai blend that looked good for tumblering, and me for winter. They use a Chinese black base that is more up my alley, naturally sweet enough that hawkband1 recommended that base. Plus keeping the ingredients simple to the chinese black, pepper, ginger, cinnamon, and vanilla seems like a smart idea for a balanced blend. https://www.hugotea.com/collections/organic-tea/products/grey-line-black-tea

I do want to try LP’s Mordor and Western Wild Eventually, but I’m going to wait to see what else he releases. Lauren’s On Wisconsin is great too because it’s good for tumblering, has no veggie taste, and is good for short steeps. The flavoring can give me a little bit of an upset stomach though which is why I hesitate. I also hesitate because it is about the same price as a good Alishan…which I’m about equal for in terms of what I like.

So, there you have it. Too much desire lol.

Daylon R Thomas

And too many wordy responses. I’ve been trying to fix my verbosity anyway. Totally failing.

Evol Ving Ness

We love your verbosity. Don’t change a thing. :)

Is the Lapsang a smoky one? I tend to order half or more mostly known ones and then a few wild cards. Or if I am feeling adventurous, a lot more wild cards. I’ve been putting off a What-Cha order for a while. Too many teas. Not enough money and December and November were heavy duty shopping months.

Evol Ving Ness

Damn. I was planning on having an oolong day and now it is 4 pm and I am into the chocolates.

Daylon R Thomas

Them cravings. :) Yes, Lapsang’s are usually smokey. The one on his list was an unsmoked version.

Daylon R Thomas

Did you read my long response to the teacher questions? :)

Evol Ving Ness

Trying to locate it now.

Daylon R Thomas

I do want to teach American high school and middle school students, but my long term future goal is to be a community college professor. I’m up to teaching abroad if the opportunity arises and compensates well with my diabetes, but I think there is a larger need in this country.

Styles of teaching were more focused on in strategies of classroom management (think Jone’s Model) and our individual personalities in the class. We really focused more on the baselines of the best teacher, one that has fully developed senses of logos, ethos, and pathos. As in: a teacher who know’s their shit, is ethical, and has a quality that makes them human and connectable (i.e. personability). My professor totally appropriated them from Aristotle and we go back and forth nudging that fact in class. We mentioned “oh, he’s totally a lecturer” but did not categorize said teachers. We just started with personalities at work using the DISC test and the Big Five traits psyche test. DISC is Dominance, Influence, Steadiness, and Conscientiousness. Dominance is taking control of situations, arguments, etc, Influence is sociability, Steadiness is akin to harmony, and Conscientiousness perfectionism, logic, rules, facts, and so on. I ranked highest with Conscientiousness and Steadiness,a healthy fourth belonging to dominance, and a minimum to influence. I was not really a huge fan of the test because it was to binary. The categories at least had nuance. The Big Five, I think you might have heard of. Here’s my blog which gives you a good idea about the class. There’s a few things I need to clean up, but here it is. https://daylonthomas.edublogs.org/

Our class did not connect critical thinking with students with challenges explicitly (more implicit), but rather we were provided examples of how we would modify a curriculum or lesson for such a student. I’ve had the same question myself, and as a class we are still trying to answer it into this semester. I think that’s the question for a true teacher, really.

As for what we did do, lesson differentiation, or differentiating lessons enough to address different styles of learning was emphasized, and as for students with linguistic and some cognitive challenges, we were taught to simplify and not cookie cutter our lessons. We were encouraged to use concise and direct language with English Language Learners, and to use multiple forms of media outside of lecture and reading. I thought it was kinda ironic how often a lot of us referred back to primary source document reading, essay writing, debate, and lecture most of all for teaching, but we have another semester and a whole internship to go. Media literacy was a huge topic especially with the election ever present in our heads and in our classrooms-we approached by comparing and contrasting Eisenhower’s “I like Ike” to “Make America Great Again”, for example. It is also a primary source lesson, technically. No essay required. It was concocted by my class mate, but it was a stellar conversation.

The rest of the course was more focused on dealing with social studies and history content itself. The course assumes that if you teach history and the other social studies properly, then you will provide an intellectual environment to foster critical thinking. By encouraging your students to realize the limits of time, record, sourcing, and perspective, they should understand that history is a reconstructed story told with a purpose, a specific paradigm, and an intended audience. The same goes for maps which portray specific ideas, political campaigns, advertisements, legal arguments, etc.

Evol Ving Ness

Thank for this, Daylon. Some years ago, my department did the DISC test as whole day of professional development with a qualified DISC leader. I had thought the whole thing was rather hokey, like a glorified astrological profile applied to the workplace. That was until we each had our personality profiles and people in the department arranged themselves by type in each of the four corners of the room. Each group was remarkably alike in terms of how they approached things and interacted w people etc. It was cool to see it in people you knew and worked with. My group of introverts was the smallest among them, but comparatively, those within it were the least flakey.

Evol Ving Ness

Of course, that is from my perspective.

Evol Ving Ness

_ I think that’s the question for a true teacher, really._

I am a true teacher and that will be a perpetual struggle.

Evol Ving Ness

That does sound like a stellar conversation.

Evol Ving Ness

Media literacy is huge. So many don’t understand the difference btwn advertising and truth and persuasion and bias. Basic research skills such as hunting up the source of news and recognizing intent.

Daylon R Thomas

What were you’re DISC results, the Conscientious one dominant lol? And Yay! ANOTHER TEACHER! I keep on telling everyone that there are A LOT of teachers on this website and that just double confirms it. I was thinking about calling myself Mr. T-moreso like our beloved drink. Nevermind my last name is Thomas.

Evol Ving Ness

I have no idea. I have the paperwork around somewhere. If it surfaces, I’ll let you know.

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The notes on here pretty much describe it well: a lightly balanced malty Earl Grey with neither the tea nor the oil dominating-just the way I like my Earl Grey. I got three solid steeps western using 190 F and Alistair’s recommendations. I have a feeling this is better as plain, but I will add some cream and sugar to try it out.

Later…

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This one is interesting. I definitely get the nutty finish and tangerine body that Alistair mentions with a savoriness that I did not expect. Like a mineral, green tea savoriness. I’m thinking seaweed like other reviews wrote. It was a tad bit salty, but still pretty good. I can adjust for that through shorter steeps, but not too much since it worked out for me.

This one is unique, and it looks like a lighter roast to me. It does have the nuttiness that I associate with lighter roasts along with the honeyed aftertaste that I’ve often seen describe them. The combo with the tangerine fruitiness is what makes this stands out. That said, not exactly sure who’d this appeal to other than a person trying different kinds of tea. You’d have to try it yourself to see if you like it. The bitter, salty quality could be off putting for some, but the natural sweetness is welcoming.

I’m glad Alistair was nice enough to offer this sample. Samples make my world go round.

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I still love this one. I’m actually finding that the green lettuce notes are actually refreshing with the florals in a warmer summer sun.

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It’s my birthday, and I had an awesome morning despite the schlew of grading, writing, thinking, resume writing, a leak from a whole into the tar roof into my mother’s rooms walls, and the sharp, icy rain. My bloodsugar is still high from some salmon and steak hibachi, and I had this tea, so I should not be complaining.

I had to visit this one to see how it pans as my favorite. I started out with the Qilan What-Cha offers at midnight, and woke up this morning with the new Taiwan Amber GABA Oolong, and this tea to gage how my preferences have changed at age 23.

I’ve found that I’ve like a little bit more baking and maturity in my oolongs, and I have not drank my nucelar Gaoshans as religiously as I used to….never mind I still cling to them like the occasional Hail Mary of an uncommitted Catholic, but a little more. The crisp apple notes and fruity florals are still there in its soothing creamy texture, but it actually came out as being noticeably grassier than the GABA and not quite as sweet. This was creamy verdant sweet, whereas the GABA is its own category of mineral, rock sugar, pear, and light yet “rocky” roast. A part of me preferred the GABA, but I still would have a hard time parting with this tea or its type. The GABA has the benefits as having the pear notes a high mountain oolong would with very short steeps, but it is not going to be as verdant or spring like as this one when I need it to be.

So in short, I have gotten more attached to oolongs with more roast, but I still cannot part with my gaoshans, or this tea for that mattter, for a while, though I might not get as large quantities of it as I used to.

Evol Ving Ness

Happy birthday to you, Daylon R. Thomas!

Here’s to another year of splendid teas!

ashmanra

Happy birthday!

CrowKettle

Happy birthday! :)

Daylon R Thomas

Thanks everyone!

mrmopar

Sorry to be late. Storm took out most of my communications. Happy Belated!

LuckyMe

happy birthday. i too have found myself gravitating away from green oolongs lately. still love them, but don’t crave them the way i used to.

Daylon R Thomas

I started out thinking I’d be hooked to darker oolongs and ripe pu-erh’s because I love roasted coffee so much, but I went green, super green, and now a little more medium.

eastkyteaguy

Happy belated birthday!

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I have two cups left, and I need to finally decide if I want to sell a large amount of the tea I have…if it I can even sell it. Just upon first sip, yes, I would prefer to have this on my hand over large quantities. If only it was back in stock. I’ve been otherwise tempted to get some from Berylleb.

Now. Where can I get respectable resealable bags for a massive sale?

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It’s in the high fifties with gushing sunshine and gushing winds. Spring is coming prematurely before Michigan decides to revert back to cold this weekend. In honor of the weather, I brewed this up gong fu with a few extra leaves. The grass and lime notes were especially present, but pleasant like a matcha can be. Otherwise, people who read my notes already know how I feel about this tea. Now I’ll put a number. 95 in terms of taste, 100 in terms of flexibility in brewing and 100 in quality for price.

Now, I have a dilemma tied to greedy curiosity. I want to restock on Spa Oolong eventually, but I also want to try What-Cha’s Kenya Gold Needle and Berylleb’s other oolong offerings. Never mind I have Zhangpings in the exact same caliber as some great Taiwan oolongs. My Green Teapot also had a few flavored oolongs that looked in line with Naivetea I wanted to try, but their sample sizes are 25 grams and over 8 bucks. #Problems of a spoiled tea addict.

Mookit

Lucky you, winter weather in Vancouver is dragging on and on and on… it keeps snowing on our spring weather dreams.

eastkyteaguy

Winter weather is about to hit Kentucky again. At this point, I wish it would just stop. On a different topic, I very nearly rated this tea around 95-96, but ultimately decided to play it safe.

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Officially one of my top favorites. I have been Gong Fuing it and tumblering it almost every day. I might have to get more soon. But then there’s another order I wanted to try at the same time. Decisions of a whiny college kid. Oh, sorry, I mean future graduate.

Evol Ving Ness

You crack me up.

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Backlog:

Tumbler Test#2- Holy crap this worked out well. I used a very small teaspoon, maybe a little less, and brewed it using 15 ounces in the tumbler. I just let it soak, and the tea yielded two heady floral and creamy brews, the third fruity and floral, and the last just lightly floral and refreshing. I am so happy that I have a green oolong that can be brewed Grandpa and Western allowing so much complexity and sweetness. I still need to try it again Gong Fu to see if I can do it properly.

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It almost passed the tumbler test since the florals popped out, but there was too much residue from a previous tea to accurately judge it.

This morning, I’ve been trying to use less time on the leaves starting at one minute, and the second steep at two minutes. I’m gettting the floral and creamyness fine, but more grassiness than fruit in the taste. I guess going two minutes the first time is the way to go for me.

I’m being an idiot with the brew anyway because it’s flatter than usual. I don’t know if my current allergies are the cause. Last night, I was able to taste a Dayuling just fine. Today, I’m getting a muted version of what I love despite having the same snotty symptoms last night. Here’s to having plenty of this tea for the upsides and the downsides!

Now, if only I purchased from What-Cha when Alistair released the new Zhangpins…

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I’ve guzzled quite a few samples of my What-Cha order. I could not resist opening every package and then smelling every bag.

This one spoke to me the most so far. Oh so creamy, and oh so fruity and floral.

If any one reading this has ever had a good Li Shan, I don’t need to preach to you, the choir. This is a representative of that calibre. It is light and full bodied. I will update the full details later, but know that I enjoy it.

As it turns out, oh so cream, and oh so fruity and floral are the only real description this needs. I did it western again to savor the sample. I brewed it about at 170-180 F and noticed more of the lovely sugar cane sweetness, but again, creamy and floral. The florals popped out more with higher heat for the last session. This tea is a little bit grassy to me, but not as grassy as other gaoshans I’ve had.

I do wish I got more of this along with the Taiwan Milk Oolong Alistair has. I would recommend this is as a solid starting point for someone getting into Li Shans, and it is by no means as terribly expensive as others I’ve seen. Still pricy, but its worth it. I think my more experienced friends would think it’s a solid standard. I’m still not sure how it do Gong Fu since I’m savoring the sample western. However, the western began with a rinse and a steep of one minute. That is one good indicator at least.

Evol Ving Ness

Hehehe, remarkable self-restraint.

Rasseru

Ive got this one sitting next to me ready to try somepoint. woop

Daylon R Thomas

I’m interested to see what you think of it. I’m totally biased to this style of oolong anyway.

Rasseru

me too. that mountain area make such good oolong

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This tea became another subject to my amateur blending. I’ve been wanting a good coconut oolong, and a part of me has been tempted to blend coconut with a Taiwan Jade, but since I have not drank this too often, I figured this tea was a good option. With the natural floral and lemon tang this had, the coconut might make it a bit sweeter and creamier.

So, I bought some cheap organic dried coconut pieces and blended it into the bag. They were HUGE, so I had to really make sure I got an even distribution. After a week of scenting, the results were really frickin’ close to coconut water. I guess I am on target. I could still taste the natural notes with the coconut flakes. The flakes on their own are incredibly creamy and sweet. Hopefully, they helped add those qualities to the tea. I’m still a little bit hesitant about the tang, but oddly enough, I found my experiment to be refreshing and headache relieving.

The white grape tartness continues to deter me however. I am very tempted to add a dash of vanilla, but I do not know the “more is too much” point yet. I was also thinking about pineapple pieces, but I do not know if it’s necessary with the teas natural fruit quality. Here’s to experimenting!

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So happy that my What-Cha order is here!

Well, this would be a decent daily drinker. Very floral. Imagine the mega floral profile of a Tie Guan Yin with the bitter after taste of green tea. I’m also getting the lemon in the aftertaste that another review described. The body is interesting because it is very, very watery. Like a water chestnut.

My only complaint that it was not as sweet as I thought it was going to be. It’s still good, and could make a good blend. I would recommend a try of this for sure, but Alistair has some better options of the many he offers.

eastkyteaguy

Daylon, I’m really intrigued by some of the teas coming out of Indonesia these days. I have one from Tealyra that I have yet to break open. I may have to pick up this one too.

Rasseru

Yeah, I had an indonesian oolong from what-cha the other day and while it wasnt as good as other more expensive oolongs, it certainly was not a rubbish one at all! And it was cheap compared

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So after trying this gongfu yesterday and finding the flavors rather light, I decided I’d try it western style using some longer steep times. I used 5.2g in an 8oz teapot with steep times of 2m, 4m, 10m. If anything, all three steeps were even weaker than my gongfu session! So, I must conclude that this is just a very light tea. Nothing wrong with that – it’s also smooth and quite easy to drink. It never got bitter, even when steeped for ten minutes. Just a little light and a touch boring to my palate. Glad I got to try it though :)

Flavors: Malt, Plums, Smooth

Preparation
195 °F / 90 °C 2 min, 0 sec 5 g 4 OZ / 118 ML

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