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80
drank Rou Gui by TeaSpring
1351 tasting notes

So I had this one before in my usual western style brewing. This time I am gong-fu-ing to the best of my abilities. I do own a gaiwan, which is standing behind me on a shelf looking nice, but I can’t for the life of me use it. I’ve tried, it doesn’t work. Using it hurts. Because I spill. I have looked up techniques, and I have practised with cold water, but I can’t not spill, and I can’t not burn myself. If I have to injure myself in order to drink tea, it’s not worth it. Not even my Tan Yang is worth that.

So I’m using my regular pot and using a cup to measure out how much water to pour on the leaves so as not to accidentally western-ify it out of sheer habit. It works okay. At least I haven’t had to MacGyver any additional equipment for it.

The first time I had this, I thought it was okay. Functional for a cup of oolong and quite pleasant to taste, but nothing particularly special or memorable. There was talk from TeaSpring about notes of the bark of cassia trees, also known as Chinese cinnamon, and I could so not find any cinnamon-y notes in it whatsoever then.

This time, first cup, the aroma is full of cinnamon! Lots of cinnamon and also something that reminds me vaguely of black currant. It’s a bit like… a mulled cordial. Yeah, that’s the closest thing that springs to mind.

The flavour is also loads of cinnamon. If I didn’t know any better, I would think this actually had actual real cinnamon in it. This is a very primary note and it occurs constantly. At first when you sip, during the middle of the sip and on the swallow, and it’s strongest towards the end there. Along with this, there is a toasted, almost charcoal-y note which rather suprised me because my nose had already made the mulled cordial conclusion. And then I was surprised that I was surprised because I should have known that it would be there. I still think it has a black currant note as well. It comes out as the cup cools and towards the bottom of the cup. Sort of thick and slightly syrup-y sweet, but not tasting as if there’s any actual sweetener in here. It’s fruit-y sweet, not sugar sweet.

Second cup, the aroma is still mulled black currant cordial, but it’s sort of darker now, and deeper. The cinnamon is not quite as out there in front and the black currant-y notes feel more sure of themselves. Like they’re really the ones revealed to be running the show, where the cinnamon notes in the first steep were led to believe they were. I think this experience is caused by the fact that the toasty note from the flavour is now also coming through in the aroma. I didn’t notice that before.

The flavour is still very heavy on the cinnamon and the charcoal, and I’m not really tasting any difference from the first go. Perhaps it is a tiny bit smoother, but not by very much. It seems to have lost the black currant-y notes, mostly, which is a bit of a shame because I was rather enjoying that one. There’s a bit left in the very last few sips, but that’s it. At least it was still strong in the aroma.

Third cup, the aroma is exactly the same as the second. Maybe a little brighter, but the same elements are there and in the same balance, so I shan’t bother too much with it. The boyfriend, by the way, when asked to take a smell, didn’t identify it as cinnamon as much as he did geraniums, but he could see where I was coming from with the cinnamon.

Geraniums. Not a good thing. Geraniums are banned in this household on account of how utterly stinky we both think they are.

Oh well, he’s not the one drinking this. And hello Luna! It’s a little hard to gong-fu stuff when there’s a cat insisting on sitting on me. She doesn’t really seem to get the whole going into the kitchen all the time concept.

Oh yeah, and the flavour is the same as the second cup too, only thinner. I think the increase in time for the fourth cup should be larger than it was between the second and third.

Fourth cup, BORED NOW! I made the increase in steeping time larger this time, but the result is the same as before. The same aroma and flavour profile only a wee bit thinner.

At this point I don’t expect it will change much going forward except gradually getting thinner, so I’ll stop writing here.

I will let my points from the first time around stand where they are, because although I had a different experience with it this time, I feel I would land on the same score anyway. It was more interesting this way, but still not really something I thought was really mind-blowing. My mind was decidedly not blown by the heavy cinnamon notes which is not something I’m super-fond of in tea, but I did like the funny black currant association I got at the beginning of the session. At least I’ve found something about it that is memorable and identifiable, namely the cinnamon note.

Not surprisingly, given the fact that the tea is named after that, really.

Kittenna

I love it when people essentially write short stream-of-consciousness novels about a tea-tasting experience. :D Pleasure to read!

Angrboda

You’re welcome. Many of my posts are written as I drink. :)

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80
drank Rou Gui by TeaSpring
1351 tasting notes

This was from my recent TeaSpring order, the one that was famously held hostage by Tax & Customs for days and days on end. I’ve been a bit distracted while drinking this cup, so you’re getting a short version of it. I was also distracted when brewing it, so the short version is probably also wildly inaccurate because I forgot to set a timer while steeping so it steeped for… a good long while. About twice, I think, of how long I would have given it otherwise.

The aroma of the leaves wasn’t super strong. It was there but very mild and gentle. I thought it had a rather toasted note to it with some sweetness and something kind of floral mixed in.

The flavour is really very similar to this. This bark of cassia that TeaSpring refer to in the description is something that is used in cooking as a spice and is also called ‘Chinese Cinnamon’. I don’t think it tastes especially cinnamon-y though, but I can sort of see where they are getting that from. I can only imagine that the actual bark would be much more cinnamon-like in nature.

It also has that burnt toast note that I mentioned when I had the woodfired TGY from Verdant a little while a go. It prickles coal-y-ly ( cringe yes I know…) on the tongue and in the after taste, but is surprisingly pleasant when it doesn’t actually have anything to do with real burnt toast.

Under the current circumstances I can’t say that I’m finding it immensely interesting though. It’s a perfectly wonderful oolong, but it’s more functional than it’s interesting, if you get what I mean. Maybe when I do this properly, I’ll change my mind though.

(I suppose it would be unfair of me to hold the fact that it felt very unpleasant in my windpipe against the tea. But it did. cough )

TeaBrat

the rou gui I have is definitely better when steeped for less time… like 30 – 60 seconds fyi

Angrboda

Yeah, I normally do 1-2 minutes. This must have had at least 5.

ScottTeaMan

How is a Rou Gui compared to Da Hong Pao??

Angrboda

Even if I had been able to avoid all those distractions with this cup, I couldn’t answer that question without a side by side comparison. I’m not experienced enough in these oolongs to do that. Sorry.

TeaBrat

I don’t know either, sorry Scott.

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82
drank Keemun Xian Zhen by TeaSpring
1351 tasting notes

I should totally start writing it down when people recommend me stuff that they think I would like. Because once again we have here a tea which was specifically recommended to me by a Steepsterite and I don’t have a clue as to who it was.

It was somewhat pricy so I only bought a small amount. Even if it’s the end of all awesome, at this price I think it would probably still only be a treat rather than a standard. $23 for 50 grams, I can’t afford that as a standard.

Anyway, that doesn’t mean it isn’t fun to try, though. It’s not impossible that this actually makes it all the more fun to try.

When first I poured this tea and I stood there in the tea corner, getting a column of steam right in the face, the primary, and very strong, association I had was that of pipe tobacco. Smelling cup now, I don’t really get that at all.

It has something, this tea, something very familiar. Something that I feel I ought to recognise and associate with something specific. This is not an individual note in the aroma, this is the aroma as a whole. I just can’t work out what it is, but I’m getting the clear impression that it’s something that ought to be very familiar to me and also something I haven’t experienced in a long time. This aroma takes me back, I just don’t know to where or when.

When I was a child, my grandfather smoked a pipe. Maybe it is actually a pipe tobacco thing after all.

If we try to break down the aroma a little more, there is a strong grain-y malty note in it, along with something woodsy and slightly spicy. These two notes, I sort of get the impression that they approach me simultaneously. They’re good friends, so they come up to greet me together. I can’t find any floral or pseudo-smoky notes in the aroma though, which I find slightly odd. I have to say I rather miss that note. It’s like there’s something missing.

The flavour isn’t as grain-y either as most Keemuns tend to be. The grain is there, but it’s more subdued, laying down the bottom of the flavour. On the swallow, I get a very clear caramel-y stickyness.

Then there’s a prickly, woodsy sort of flavour on top of that, and at the very top there is a very floral note. Still no pseudo-smoke. It’s 100% floral in this one.

I find this a rather flimsy tea. All the flavour notes are there and strong, but they seem to be only very loosely connected with one another, as if the entire flavour profile could fly apart at a moments notice.

It was an excellent recommendation for me to try. I certainly found it very interesting and fun and I will enjoy the rest of these leaves. I just don’t think it’s one that I’ll drink when I’m in a specific Keemun mood, because it doesn’t really embody how I prefer my Keemuns. For me, a wonderful Keemun must be smoky rather than floral and lot more grain-y than this. This is too soft-spoken, really, to be a good morning tea, and I want my Keemuns to be rather more forceful.

(In other news, I shall be taking the first of my 52teas advent calender today. I know it’s too early, but this way I’ll have the last one before we go to England. Don’t worry about spoilers, I shan’t post anything yet. Although, I did see that some people were speculating on how to minimise spoiler-risk for others, and if anybody is interested in my opinion, it can’t be done. It’s all fine to make sure to post later in the day, but for those of us in earlier time zones, our ‘later in the day’s are still your mornings and the effort is rather lost. I believe that as long as everybody just posts on the correct day or later, then it must be up to others to not visit Steepster until AFTER they’ve opened their calendars. So I will be starting early and writing my posts privately, so I can put them on Steepster later.)

Uniquity

You’re a few days ahead and I’ll be a few days behind! I largely agree about the “spoiler” risk, though honestly I’m not concerned. Yes, the surprise is very nice but as long as I have the tea, I’m a happy duck!

Ninavampi

Mine still hasn’t arrived… I hope it gets here soon enough that I can join in at least mid way! : )

ScottTeaMan

Tea Spring really has some great teas! Most are on the expensive side. :/

Stephanie

Ooo yum—“caramel-y stickyness”!

Angrboda

Uniquity, yeah, if we could hide the text somehow, so that it would be a conscious decision for others to look at that particular post, it would be different, I think. But we can’t, so everybody has to be responsible for their own spoiler safety.

Ninavampi, I hope you get yours too. I know what it’s like to wait and wait while others are playing. Last year I never got mine because the danish post service messed it up. Twice. I decided not to get Frank to try and send it to me a third time after it came back again the second. It was eating up all his profit.

ScottTeaMan, yes, they do tend to be quite pricy, but the shipping rate is so low, I think it evens out more or less.

Stephanie, that’s really the only way I can explain it. :) It’s the first time I’ve found proper caramel in a Keemun. I’ve seen others post about that before, but it always escaped me until now.

Indigobloom

I think you can hide the text though! Wasn’t it with the – key… or something like that…
Mmmmm caramel, naturally! Sounds fantastic

Angrboda

nope, that just makes it rather more difficult to read. :)

Indigobloom

ahhh, that’s right it’s the < & > that deletes the text so that only the author can see it.
There was a post about formatting awhile ago: http://steepster.com/discuss/1894-how-to-use-text-formatting-symbols-formatting-can-be-fun?post_id=27723#forum_post_27723

ScottTeaMan

Thanks for the post Indigo.

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53
drank Meng Ding Gan Lu by TeaSpring
16 tasting notes

The most exquisite thing about this tea is the appearance of the dry leaf. The leaves look like little furry spirals and have a pleasant faintly sweet smell. I want very much to like it, but I am not really sure I do. The tea just is not something I think that I will crave the taste of—not horrible tasting—but not something I love. I infused a fair amount of leaf in a glass gaiwan at 170° for a minute. I think this tea is a little too unforgiving and vague. Maybe I am having a bad tea day?

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53
drank Meng Ding Gan Lu by TeaSpring
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53
drank Meng Ding Gan Lu by TeaSpring
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64

Definitely has the sweet corn notes that many yellow teas have, but has extra grassiness. Overall, mellow with a pleasant aftertaste. Prepared per instructions in a porcelain gaiwan using two heaping teaspoons of tea, 185’F water for 1 minute for the first two infusions, increasing time and temperature for subsequent infusions.

Preparation
185 °F / 85 °C 1 min, 30 sec
Roy Kenagy

Hey Nathan – Thanks for the postings! I’ve been kind of set in my tea ways for many years – you’ll give me some new paths to follow. -Roy

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81
drank Huang Jin Gui by TeaSpring
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Preparation
3 min, 30 sec

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81
drank Huang Jin Gui by TeaSpring
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3 min, 15 sec

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81
drank Yong Chun Fo Shou by TeaSpring
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Preparation
3 min, 30 sec

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81
drank Nai Xiang Oolong by TeaSpring
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Preparation
3 min, 15 sec

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81
drank Nai Xiang Oolong by TeaSpring
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4 min, 0 sec

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81
drank Nai Xiang Oolong by TeaSpring
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3 min, 0 sec

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81
drank Bai Hao oolong by TeaSpring
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Preparation
3 min, 45 sec

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81
drank Bai Hao oolong by TeaSpring
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3 min, 30 sec

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81
drank Meng Ding Gan Lu by TeaSpring
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2 min, 15 sec

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68
drank Xu Fu Long Ya by TeaSpring
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3 min, 15 sec

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68
drank Xu Fu Long Ya by TeaSpring
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2 min, 30 sec

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2 min, 0 sec

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87
drank Huo Shan Huang Ya by TeaSpring
44 tasting notes

I feel slightly bad about stealing a lot of this tea from my boyfriend! Normally we don’t drink the same tea (he’s into Chinese greens), but I’ll try at least a cup for curiosity. Well, this one caught me by surprise.

This is the second yellow tea I’ve tried, so I can’t accurately make associations with other teas. It’s very nutty- a quality which I really, really love. It also has a corn-like taste to it. It almost reminds me of eating corn slathered with some butter (which I never add to corn interestingly enough). Otherwise, it’s pretty light and delicate, which I would expect from a Chinese tea, but it’s unique enough to hold my attention and warrant further exploration into Chinese territory. So far this tea beats all the Chinese greens I’ve had, though!

Preparation
165 °F / 73 °C 1 min, 30 sec

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72
drank Meng Ding Gan Lu by TeaSpring
44 tasting notes

The scent of this tea is greatly inviting. It’s very sweet and airy, so I can understand the poetic expressions of the “sweet dew” that comes to mind. I’m not one, however, for that kind of sweetness in tea, but I have to appreciate its subtle, light, and delicately sweet taste. It holds up well to multiple infusions (the second one was quite nice actually). It’s just not a tea I would order myself or drink very often.

Preparation
175 °F / 79 °C 2 min, 45 sec

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67
drank Wu Yi Qu Hao by TeaSpring
44 tasting notes

The scent is smoky and also a bit nutty. Taste wise, it’s ever so slightly fruit-like sweet with a bitter vegetal aftertaste. The main thing I appreciate about this tea is that the flavor lingers on your tongue for quite while. Otherwise, I’d say it’s rather mediocre. The second infusion is still quite flavorful and not bitter at all even though it was steeping for quite some time.

Preparation
175 °F / 79 °C 2 min, 45 sec

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75

Didn’t wow me as much as I thought it would… The price is steep but the leaf appearance and taste are very similar to Jade Tie Guan Yin, only a little less floral and a tiny bit sweeter. The brew is very mild and tame tasting overall. Nothing spectacular. I was able to achieve three infusions.

Preparation
200 °F / 93 °C 2 min, 0 sec

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