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This morning I had Thomas. I woke up. I wanted Thomas. And gosh darn it, I had him.

He came out perfectly. Floury. Baked. Honey. If someone gave this to me to taste, I’d swear they put honey into it. It’s amazing that the taste is there without the honey. So yum!

2nd steep: 5 min 30 sec, 205° F.
Cooled to perfect drinkable warmness before I got to it. Delicious. Comforting. It really has been a perfect few tea days here.

1st steep.

Preparation
200 °F / 93 °C 3 min, 30 sec

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The husband is on night shift currently. So I made him a cup of Thomas yesterday evening when he first woke up. He did not drink a 2nd steep. So late last night right before bed, I drank it with a bit of half and half (the milk was unopened and I didn’t want to open it for just a tad of it) to temper it down for nighttime. I know this did not decrease the caffeine content but somehow tea with milk seems more relaxing. I also slightly oversteeped to compensate for the dairy I knew I’d be adding. It still overpowered the tea too much.

PS This is out of order. I should have logged this before the previous tealog on Jackee.

2nd steep.

Preparation
205 °F / 96 °C 5 min, 30 sec

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It was sad. Thomas got left by the wayside and did not get entirely drunk. Poor Thomas.

2nd steep.

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205 °F / 96 °C 5 min, 0 sec
__Morgana__

Well, at least he won’t be hungover in the morning!

~lauren.

Gasp – I thought he was Abandoned!

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I’m please to report that Thomas was not hungover this morning. Although, he does not feel inclined to go out. His mates did abandon him on the sidewalk on their way to yet another pub, leaving Thomas to find his way home alone in the night. He’s plenty pissed about that and it would not be wise to knock on his door.

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I satisfied my craving for Thomas from last night this morning. In an effort to calm the bitterness and dryness, I steeped for 15 sec and 5° less than I normally do. Oh pooh, it turned honeyed biscuit Thomas into a rather plain uninspiring black. Then, a third of the way through the cup with it cooled from hot to warm, the honeyed biscuit was back with only a bit of bitterness at the end of each sip and no dryness. I like it! But I think I like bitter and dry honeyed biscuit Thomas that I can drink hot and is wonderful too. Perhaps I’ll steep him this way on days I desire a more mellow black tea. But I think I’m going back to 3 min 30 sec and 200° F.

I still find it a bit amazing that I can actually taste differences in a tea just with slight changes in parameters.

Preparation
195 °F / 90 °C 3 min, 15 sec
Jim Marks

With some black teas, that dryness is impossible to avoid. It is just part of that leave and that oxidation process. No amount of monkeying with the steep will get rid of it.

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Indeed, you are right. I sought to only decrease it a bit. But I lost the essence of Thomas in doing so.

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Backlogging.
Yesterday morning’s breakfast tea was the brawny Thomas. Even at 3 min 30 sec, his 1st steep is astringent and drying. His 2nd steep is perfect though. Definitely my preferred steep. I wish both steeps could come out that good. 2nd steep: 5 min, 205°.

Preparation
200 °F / 93 °C 3 min, 30 sec

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Thomas Sampson threw his manly brawn around and ended up in my cup this again this morning. He was steeped for less time and in cooler water in an effort to reduce his bitterness a bit. It worked. And I think I got a bit of bake-y too. More of a honeyed biscuit though. I liked it. He will not have to fight his way into my cup tomorrow morning. His second steep (5 min, 205°) was weak but drinkable. Much more honeyed biscuit and less bitter, smoother. The slightest pinch of fresh leaf will revive him there, I think.

Preparation
200 °F / 93 °C 3 min, 45 sec

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In one of my last tealogs, I was wondering where takgoti had gotten to. Then suddenly, where is chrine? Well, the husband was in a car accident early – 6am – Monday morning on the way to work, detailed below.

The husband: Drives our Prius, The Bunny. At 50 mph on cruise control. In the right lane. To get 53 mpg. While commuting 45 min to 1 hour each way to work. Lights on cause it’s still dark out. Assumes truck will pass him at the last minute cause they often do. Highway is flat and straight. The speed limit is 70 mph. No other cars are around.
The 18 wheeler: Does not pass the husband. Runs into his rear end, driver’s side.
The husband: Propelled a bit into left lane. Gets car off the road and stopped without hitting the tree line.
The Prius: Damaged but fixable.
The husband: Not badly hurt, ever so thankfully. Impact related back pain. On meds. Drowsy, zoned out, quiet.

Now, the tea. Also in non-sentence form. First tea since accident. Not sure this was the best time to try a tea for the first time. What the hell though.

Leaves.
Look: Thin, longer than Jackee, more curled, black with spots of tan and brown.
Smell: Papery – dusty, musty. A bit floral, oddly. Slightly sweet.

Wet leaves.
Look: Flat dark brown.
Smell: Papery. Raisiny. Sweet.

Tea.
Look: Deep brown with red tones.
Smell: Honey-floral-papery.
Taste: Bitter. Honey/sweet. Soft. Bitter.

I think I need to steep it less time or at a lower temp.

By the way, if Jackee “caramel” Muntz reminds me of takgoti, Thomas “bake-y” Sampson reminds me of Auggy.

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Boiling 4 min, 0 sec
Stephanie

So sorry to hear about the accident! Glad he’s not too badly hurt!

fcmonroe

That’s terrible! Was the truck driver charged with the accident?

JacquelineM

Oh my goodness!!! I’m glad he is on the mend, and the car can be repaired. You had to be crazed all week. I’m glad you finally got a cup of tea in ya!

ChariTea

I’m so sorry about what happened but I’m glad that he wasn’t badly hurt!

Ricky

Poor Chrine + Chrine’s husband. And poor bunny! =(

wombatgirl

Ohmygod! Poor thing. May the hubby heal quickly.

Erin

Oh my goodness! It sounds like your husband is extremely lucky. I’ve heard real horror stories involving huge semi trucks. That must have been terrifying for you both, I am so sorry. And to have that happen to a Prius, too! What a nice reward for being environmentally conscious. It’s kind of like a metaphor, you know? Big semi crushing the small Prius?

Shanti

So sorry about what’s happened! I’m glad your husband wasn’t badly hurt…you both will be in my thoughts.

tease

Miserable, damnable 18-wheeler trucks.. Glad to hear your husband is safe and sound, even if on the mend, and that the Prius can be saved! Hope the tea will help with the aftermath; you’ll both be in my thoughts!

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Thanks to everybody for your kind words. It’s been a trying week and they are much appreciated.

fcmonroe ~ Yes, the truck driver was charged with the accident.

Erin ~ You’re right, it does seem like it could be a metaphor.

takgoti

Oi! Very glad to hear he came out of that more okay than not.

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Backlogging. 7 days ago. Sunday morning.

The February Backlog: From the 1st to today.

My morning mug Sunday morning last weekend. And my last serving of Jackee. I don’t know why I chose this day to finish him off. It wasn’t a special day nor was it a bad or anything else negative day. I guess it just felt like the day to. Being from an Andrews & Dunham limited number series, I cannot get anymore of Jackee and am quite sad to see him gone. If I were not quite cold and blah feeling today, I’m sure he’d get a better last tealog from me, which he deserves. I’m not changing the rating as I think he still deserves it. I had two steeps. I will miss this tea and I don’t like having to click the remove from cupboard button.

Preparation
205 °F / 96 °C 3 min, 45 sec

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Backlogging. 4 days ago. Sunday morning.

This is also a tea I am hoarding. But I gave myself permission to go ahead and have it that morning for no special reason at all. I think I only have one serving left now. =(

It was extra rich, hearty, and delicious. Possibly because it’s nearly gone. The second steep was fulfilling as well.

Preparation
205 °F / 96 °C 3 min, 45 sec
RachanaC (Rachel)-iHeartTeas

You know I have heard people talk about how great this tea is and I still haven’t tried it. I really need to correct that gross oversight and quick. :)

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It’s amazing but it was limited edition and you can’t get it anymore unfortunately.

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Backlogging. 4 days ago. Late Saturday morning.

I’m pretty low on Jackee and I can’t get anymore so I must have been having a shitty morning to have gone for him. But I can’t remember why now. lol. Oh yeah, I woke up at 2am with a seriously bad headache and much nausea. It was gone in the morning, but I always feel off the day after bad headaches. The Jackee was so good though.

Preparation
205 °F / 96 °C 3 min, 30 sec

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Backlog. 11 days ago – Saturday morning.

I remember that there was a special reason for having Jackee that morning, but I do not remember what. Quite probably my day was already off to a crappy start and I needed some very good tea. I’m rationing somewhat, but I will miss this one so much when it’s gone.

2nd steep: 8 mins.

Preparation
205 °F / 96 °C 3 min, 45 sec
teawing

I ration good batches myself…slowly working my way through some coconut oolong right now. It is my reward for good behavior every two or three days.

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I’ve bookmarked your coconut oolong for future shopping reference. (;

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After groggily making the previous tea I’d decided on before I changed my mind and picked Jackee to have with breakfast the day before, I made up for my mistake by making Jackee with breakfast two days ago – an everything bagel and cream cheese. Ohmigod, Jackee is so good and goes lovely with the bagel. I haven’t had him in awhile because I’m low on him and semi-hoarding him which I think makes him taste extra good when I do have him.

Preparation
205 °F / 96 °C 3 min, 45 sec
JacquelineM

Isn’t a smoky tea with an everything bagel and cream cheese just divine!?!?!?

teawing

I now know what I am having for breakfast in the morning…thanks chrine!

teawing

Yes folks, I will now be finding an everything bagel and cream cheese in the morning…
:)

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@Jacqueline: Yes!

@teawing: You’re welcome. I’m going to have to do this again before I’m out of bagels. =)

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Backlogging. Last Thursday morning, the day after the previous tealog.

I hadn’t had any Jackee for quite awhile before yesterday and while I got the caramel, I wasn’t as super happy over my mug as I remember being – it seemed weak. So I increased the steep time by 15 seconds and the water temperature by 5°. At first I thought it was better this way, but there was only hint of caramel. Perhaps I drank it too fast and didn’t let the mug cool enough for the caramel to come out. I think I’ll play with the parameters a bit before reverting back to my original favored ones.

Preparation
195 °F / 90 °C 3 min, 30 sec

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My main man, Mr. Muntz!

Jackee-Jackee
Fo-Fackee
Me-My-Moe-Mackee
Jackee!

My breakfast mug yesterday. It’s been a long time since I last had Jackee, months even. It went like this: no caramel, no caramel, where’s the caramel?, no caramel, half a mug left, CARAMEL! I think the temperature of the tea when you drink it has as much to do with the caramel as the steeping time and water temperature. It could have been stronger overall. Try increasing both a bit. The second steep had a hint of caramel.

2nd steep: 5 min.

Preparation
190 °F / 87 °C 3 min, 15 sec

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It has been A-While since I’ve had Jackee. I woke up this morning and didn’t want the Tiger or Caravan. I went through my teas in my head and decided on Jackee. I refreshed myself with my tea notes on Steepster to get the delicious caramel.

I sip. Whaaa?! There’s a little caramel but more briskness than I remember. I keep sipping as it cools. Midway down the cup, the caramel comes out. There is relief. I will have to remember to let this one cool a bit before drinking. The second steep was light but caramelly good.

2nd steep: 5 min 30 sec.

Preparation
190 °F / 87 °C 3 min, 15 sec

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Yesterday evening, I went to make a cup of tea and notice I had clean nearly dry leaves of Jackee from a late morning steep. I thought why not steep him again rather than throw him out. 2nd steep Jackee is a lightly smoky caramelly good drink. Then I added a small splash of milk for reasons I’m not quite sure of. Woah, did it bring out the smoky taste in a way it hadn’t before. Not necessarily stronger though. And still caramelly sweet. I would definitely drink him this way again. I might even try a bit of milk on a first steep to see what it does. I wasn’t expected it to change noticeably. I’d be interested to see what milk did to Thomas and the Tiger as well.

2nd steep.

Preparation
205 °F / 96 °C 5 min, 0 sec

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Look at your tea. Now look at Jackee. Look at your tea. Now back at Jackee. Your tea does not look like Jackee. But your tea could smell like Jackee. With A&D DFT.

Yesterday morning, I had a cup of Jackee. He was delicious as always. But he deserves better than just an ordinary tealog. Hence, the above.

Ideal 1st steep parameters.

Preparation
190 °F / 87 °C 3 min, 15 sec
Rabs

ROFL! I bow before the awesomness of this!!!!!

Doulton

Jackee is a man of mine. Perhaps the onliest boxer, aside from Ali, who can get asked questions like a senator.

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I had to see if I could replicate yesterday’s Jackee. Yes! Wonderful again. Now I have to worry about drinking him up too fast. Thankfully, Thomas has had two days of recovery from his harrowing evening half-drunk wanderings and should be up to going out again tomorrow.

2nd steep: 205° F, 5 min.

Preparation
190 °F / 87 °C 3 min, 15 sec

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The 2nd steep of this morning’s Jackee was just as good. I enjoyed him thoroughly with a Greek chicken wrap.

Preparation
205 °F / 96 °C 5 min, 0 sec

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I think I’ve found my ideal Jackee this morning. I gave him the same treatment as I gave Thomas yesterday – decrease the steep time 15 sec and the water temperature 5° – as I found them both just a bit strong for my exact taste but still totally crave worthy. While I did not have success with Thomas this way, I did with Jackee.

He was creamy caramel. He was buttery. He had some smokyness. He was a deep dark honey as he cooled. I love this Jackee. Does he get a ratings bump? He does. He’s now tied with Thomas and A&D’s Yunnan. I cannot pick a favorite.

Preparation
190 °F / 87 °C 3 min, 15 sec

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So how was the 2nd steep of Jackee?

Well, I steeped it for the same amount of time as the 1st (3 min 45 sec). Let it cool slightly to be able to drink it. Realized it was weak. Steeped 30 sec more. Still weak. Steeped 30 sec more. Better but weak. Steep 1 min more. I taste tea mostly now, not watery. Steep 1 min more. Now somewhere over 6 min steep time on a black. I stop. I drink the mug. Sweet and smokey.

I think I need to do something different next time. Perhaps hotter water on the 2nd steep and a longer initial steep time. I might also turn my 1st steep at 3 min 30 sec. The 1st steep was quite strong. I believe A&D said on their website that Jackee could take 2 steeps. They said that about the Yunnan and it could. I think I just need to fiddle with it.

So, Steepsterians who’ve had Jackee and done a 2nd steep with him, what parameters did you use? How did he come out?

Preparation
195 °F / 90 °C 6 min, 45 sec
JacquelineM

My second steep (which tasted like butterscotch!) was 2 teaspoons of leaves in 16 oz water for 4:30, boiling water. I thought it was great!!! My first steep put hair on my chest, and I am going to do my first steep more like yours next time!

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My A&D DFT Series 2 arrived yesterday. It shipped on Thursday so I wasn’t expecting it until early next week. I got it from the mailbox too late in the day to try any yesterday.

After a delicious lunch of chicken enchiladas, I decided to go on the caramel quest with Jackee Muntz. The dry leaves were small – four to eight millimeters long and thin, mostly straight with some curves, and deep cocoa brown with some reddish and tan accents. They smelled smokey, like antique library books starting to burn. The wet leaves looked like broken pencil shavings in shape and were a rich brown and a dark sierra brown. They smelled smokey but more tarry, almost putting-down-asphalt like, but without the toxin edge to the smell.

The cup of tea was a rich brown with a touch of red to it and smelled smokey and burnt, yet sweet. The sweet part smelled like a dessert-type food that I haven’t identified yet. It reminded me of the fair. At first, I thought hot burnt caramel corn or kettle corn. But that isn’t it. I’ll keep sniffing subsequent cups and see if I figure it out.

And now for news of the caramel quest. I’d like to thank everyone who paved the way for me with their tealogs because I found caramel. The first sips were smokey and ashy with some sweet. As the tea cooled, I could taste the burnt sugar taste along with the smokiness. By about half a cup left, it was smokey and light caramel and just warm. The last few sips were caramel with a bit of smokiness and cooler. I also noticed it had a thicker mouth feel as it cooled.

I noticed the taste of this tea change a lot with the temperature of it. I’ve noticed that before but never so prominently. Maybe it was only because I was paying such close attention looking for the caramel. I have to admit I wasn’t expecting to be able to find the caramel in the tea, especially after smelling the dry leaves.

I think I was planning to write something more but I seem to have had a brain blank thinking about this tea. Since I’m planning to do a 2nd steep shortly and drink this tea again quite soon, I’ll end this tealog instead of leaving it up until I remember more of what I wanted to say.

Also, while I was typing this the thought occurred to me – I haven’t seen anything from takgoti in a few days. Where is takgoti? Has she been around, or told us of her absence, and it slipped my mind? (I just thought through my other favorite regular posters and they’re all accounted for.)

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195 °F / 90 °C 3 min, 45 sec
Erin

I was actually wondering that too. She hasn’t posted in a while, and I don’t think she mentioned anything about going away. I hope things are okay.

Shanti

Good job finding the caramel! I’m still hunting for it… :(

Erin

Shanti, is this still a good tea even without the caramel?

~lauren.

SUCCESS! Awesome you found caramel – I’ve been reading about the trials & tribulations of this tea that even though I haven’t (yet) tasted this one, I’m rooting for those who do!

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Erin ~ It wasn’t just me not noticing her then.

takgoti, where are you? Anyone know where takgoti is? Should we be worried?

Shanti ~ I hope you find the caramel. Try drinking the tea more slowly perhaps. Mine was lukewarm and cooling by the time I finished it.

Lauren ~ I didn’t expect to find it so easily. Or so clearly. I am hoping I don’t have trouble replicating it.

Ricky

Probably midterms for Takgoti.

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Oh yeah, it could be about that time. Thanks Ricky.

Auggy

Yay caramel! Hehe!
And no worries about takgoti – she’s on spring break right now and traveling a bit but she’s safe and sound!

JustDuckyInNE

I liked your description very much, with your notes about smokiness/burnt/sweet tastes. But you stopped me in my tracks when I read “…antique library books starting to burn.” I can absolutely understand the smell of antique library books, but when did you smell them burning? :-) And for heaven’s sake, please tell me what they are so I can pay for shipping to me.

I imagine you had occasion to help or attend one of those library-cleaning days, where no-one has checked them out for the last 25 years, so they toss them. I just don’t know where they burn them.

Shanti

Erin—I actually don’t like it that much :x it’s smokey and piney, but I don’t really like that kind of tea. I like Thomas Sampson more, but even TS doesn’t seem that “special” to me…just a good straightforward black tea.

Robert Godden

My son and another employee once sieved through and removed all of the little caramel bits from a caramel flavoured black tea and ate them, They didn’t have to go looking for the caramel taste, they had it all. I wasn’t impressed when I noticed the tea on the shelf had no little bits.

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Auggy ~ Thanks for letting us know about takgoti. I’m sure she told us and I forgot.

JustDucky ~ I love books, both reading and physical books. I love the way they smell, which is why, for me, a paper-y or old book smell is a good thing. I’ve never smelt books burning, but I’ve smelt antique books and I’ve smelt paper burning. So it smells the way I think old paper would burning. My local library system has several huge book sales each year to deal with the old or surplus books.

Shanti ~ Thomas Sampson is coming tomorrow.

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Robert ~ You commented while I was typing my last comment. I can just see a little boy doing that. lol

Garrett

Congrats on finding the caramel. I have heard so much about it, I just ordered my series 2 last night, I can’t wait for it to get here. Hopefully I find the caramel as easy as you did.

And yeah, I was wondering the same thing, I haven’t seen her lately either and was curious about it since she usually posts frequently.

Thanks Auggy for clearing that up.

I ♥ NewYorkCiTEA

Garrett ~ I studied up on Jackee to get the caramel. I followed their directions real good. =) My Series 2 came really quickly. Can’t wait to read your tealogs on yours.

takgoti

Aww! I feel incredibly loved right now. Anyhow, I’m still trying to nail down the caramel ratios. I’m glad you managed to find some of it. I swear, y’all, when it’s strong, it’s like…WHOAMYGODCARAMEL.

I ♥ NewYorkCiTEA

Me too. I thought I’d spend mugs looking for it. And yay, you’re back. How was spring break? Did you get your party on?

takgoti

It was pretty awesome! I did get my party on…ish. Not really. My idea of partying nowadays is mimosas on the couch with a book in the afternoon with the door open and music playing in the background. Mmm…

teabird

I know it was awhile ago that Erin asked this, but I do really like Jackee even without the caramel. He’s still sweet, and smooth, and smoky, but definitely Keemun-smoky not Lapsang-smoky. The caramel, when it happens, is an unexpected bonus that sometimes shows up as he cools.

Doulton

I love your review. Jackee is a main man of mine and he’s comfortable in the sweaty atmosphere of the gym and also in the refined Library of an English country castle—a ducal seat, perhaps.

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It’s ok, not worth the hype

Preparation
205 °F / 96 °C 3 min, 0 sec

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52

Steeped it too long, need to try it again

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